Project Lore: Five dudes. Four cameras. One World of Warcraft.

Project Lore WotLK Beta 1.12 Wrap Up

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By Rob on Friday, September 19th, 2008 at 3:12 pm

This was a great week. Great set of episodes. I really enjoy watching the new instance and listening to you guys work our new strategies. Keep up the incredible work. Can’t wait for more.

By Malthe on Friday, September 19th, 2008 at 3:13 pm

uhh Karazan,… looking forward to that…. how about doing some old world instances.

By Funlight on Friday, September 19th, 2008 at 3:53 pm

Well I saw this 1st and commentet it first. I saw it 0.5 min after the realse

By Funlight on Friday, September 19th, 2008 at 3:54 pm

just nvm

By Xwind on Friday, September 19th, 2008 at 4:21 pm

Again, with the issue with Prot Paladins and mana. Prot Pallys have a passive ability called Spiritual Attunement. When healed they get a % of mana back. During raids, paladins never go down in mana with 3 healers and etc. Even doing runs in 5 mans they dont use that much mana because they generate so much threat that they dont have to use out all their spells.

By Krafla on Friday, September 19th, 2008 at 4:57 pm

Oooh Kara yay! Looking forward to seeing that!! Really been enjoyed watching the wipes this week as well!

By Baru on Friday, September 19th, 2008 at 5:28 pm

I’d love to see kara, i’ve tried to run it twice now and with no luck on a completion, so that’d be great. Also very interrested on seeing the other possible drops in the new instance. Looking for something for a fury spec warrior, maybe a killer axe. Love this site, can’t wait to see whats next to come.

By zanun on Friday, September 19th, 2008 at 6:03 pm

dorkins why did you go Beast Mastery and not Marksmanship or Survival?

By Lunagirl on Friday, September 19th, 2008 at 6:45 pm

Hey people at project lore.

I just saw the newest episode and the wrap up and i thought… GOD have alex never seen a druid tank?! dude i play a druid tank myself and we rox!!
i got roughly 17.5k health unbuffed and i dont have any pieces of t6 very little black temple and Mount Hyjal gear.
And i would suggest that u try to gear a druid tank up and try to see them tank

Also i was wondering how many accounts do the guys have? I was counting them and if its to be whit all of the chars then they have 8 difrent accounts? is this right? also cant juggy or gogins answear please they are the coolest of the 5 guys

By Jason B on Friday, September 19th, 2008 at 7:13 pm

This week made me want to just go out and buy wow right now. Sadly my computer just is not up to snuff right now. I should actually be getting a Mac this winter/Christmas.

I know this is a weird request but does anyone think maybe i should I should invest in the PC or Mac version of WOW. PC seems to be a slight winner as most of the gaming rigs seemed geared toward them and its easier to find the PC version of the game.

Mac makes the obvious choice of no viruses really come into light and can always be put onto a computer the play the game. But of course I can’t ever seem to find a copy of the game.

Its your call guys.

By Matthew Costello on Friday, September 19th, 2008 at 7:58 pm

Man, YOU GUYS JUST ROCK!! I have never seen a gruop jsut go through a whole new instance with such great Team work. I got only one quick question for your tank:

What kind of advice you would recommend when using the new talents for the prot tree?

By Rod on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 12:36 am

OK, first of all I wanna say the show rocks. You guys set quite the example of how the game should be played. Lots of people today are only worried about endgame stuff and getting equipped. Most of those people are even way better equipped than the project lore group, and they still wipe a lot in heroics, even in trash. I think that’s because they stress too much about repair expenses and all. They forget this game is supposed to be for fun with your friends. Dorkins put it perfectly when he answered someone’s question about whether it would be too late to join the fun.

Now for my question:

You guys talked about tanking, DPS and healing, but quite barely. Since the group doesn’t have a good example of all the classes in the game, people who don’t play those classes get less benefit from it, I think. Like Fury Warriors, Pallies, Druids and all. I’m not saying you should have all the classes in the show, but I would just like to see more talk about those classes and how they would fit in a group. How about that?

By Egma on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 2:30 am

As for your question on the time spent on showing trash mobs, I would have to say speed up for the straight out obvious pulls, but normal time for the “harder” or “harder to time” pulls such as having to time between 2 different pats.

As for Prot Palis, do you know of any (in your guild or as a friend or what not) that are testing on beta or even PTR? I have my Pali that is normaly speced prot, but I did it as retro on the PTR due to wanting to find out if they got it right this time or not. I have tried to OOM my Palidin which is not a geared Pali even in my tanking gear (yes I am retro spec with prot/holy argo gear because like I said I am prot on real servers) and could not get my mana below 90% trying. (when was spam healing I could, but not fighting) Do you know if Prot Mana is better or if you still have to worry about spreading your threat and maybe not using the high threat high mana spells on most pulls due to OOMing to fast if you did.

From what I have seen on hunters and Palis (those are 2 of my 3 mains) Wrath is going to be much more difficult, because like you said this stuff looks “OP” but is really geared towards leveling to 80. My BM hunter could solo upto and including the first boss in Blood Furnace (at end of 1st boss I still had full HP and MP and pet still had 90% HP) my “Retro” Pali in holy argo/tank gear with sword and board could solo up to the first boss, didn’t try the first boss due to the run wasn’t going near as good as the hunters and so didn’t want a repair bill even though I might have been able to didn’t want to risk it. Remeber that both of these are 70s that are still in 1/2 the hellfire quest rewards from walking into helfire at 60 with very few actual 70 blues so even though this was probably possibly to do in epics before the talent changes is quit an improvment for a junk geared player who doesn’t even have gear for the spec he is.

By Eugen on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 4:22 am

way better wrap up than normal alexis sounded way more natural this time than in the other wrap ups keep up the good work and can’t w8 for the kara raid..

By Ryan on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 7:42 am

The Protection Paladin isnt given enough credit. It is the only class that has a AOE Ranged taunt. You almost need one for Lady Vashj if you only have two tanks. I have a Prot Paladin that has 17k unbuffed health. The Prot Paladin does get 10% mana back from the amount he is healed. But overheals do not count as mana..because technically he wasnt healed for that much. Yes a Paladin can run out of mana kinda quick if the mobs don’ t hit the Paladin for anything. In fact i have to bring a stack of mana pots to karazhan because i run out of mana. But, what you can do is turn your back to a mob making it so he hits you harder and the only Mitigation you have is armor. Take a hit or two and your healers heal you back up and viola, you have some mana. Not to mention, Paladins also have a Seal that gives mana back. It is called Seal of Wisdom. Throw that on a boss and you will have a hard time running out of mana.

I tanked Supremus in BT the other day and I never went below 80% mana, even in Kite Phase.

The way Paladins get aggro is from Holy Damage. In the expansion it will be different…They will be battling for gear against Warriors for Stam/STR gear. Paladins have a skill that they should always use called Righteous Fury. It Increases the threat generated by your Holy spells by 60%. So your threat relates to your spell damage, unlike warriors where they need expertise so they dont miss as much. Also they have a skill called Holy Shield. Which Increases chance to block by 30% for 10 sec and deals 155 Holy damage for each attack blocked while active. Damage caused by Holy Shield causes 35% additional threat. Each block expends a charge. With Improved it has 8 charges. The more you block with this active, the more threat you generate. Not to mention every time you get hit, Retribution Aura and Blessing of Sanctuary activate doing holy damage to the target. With all of this active constantly, Consecration down, and Judging either Righteousness or Vengeance, I average over 1000 TPS.

The pally tank is not appreciated as much as it should be. When $%^& hits the fan, a pally can AOE taunt and hold all of them easily. Seeing a pally tank on here would be cool, but there is more to a Pally tank then most people understand.

By Ben on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 11:39 am

YAY my birthday is on the same day Warth of the Lich King Comes Out YAY YAY YAY and the epi was kool i LOVE the Bosses Good Luck Guys =)

By Darthozzan on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 2:02 pm

I thought the real-time was awesome, imo much better then being sped up. I really liked the beta episodes, awesome stuff. But the best part for me was actually the real-time.

By jason stewart on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 2:53 pm

Ok you guys rock and i love the show, I am in the navy and stationed in Italy and bring the podcasts to work with me so i can watch 3-4 episodes together. I want to say i love the longer trash mob episodes, when the were played in fast forward i would watch the episodes on slow-mo just to get a better feel for the instances. Anyways my vote is for longer complete episodes. And just to let you know your show keeps me going and you guys are helping me help the country by supporting our troops in Iraq. Keep up the awsome work and i would love to see one of you lvl up a DarkNight for the show. US NAVY, and WOW in that order my priorities.

By Scuttlebutt on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 4:32 pm

Hey guys and girl,

Just like to say I am loving the show keep it up! and zomg pet out dude, huntard basics 101! lol

I am looking forward to your next show, so good luck!

scuttlebutt
Kul Tiras - EU

By luna on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 4:35 pm

Nice & very funny wrap-ups by Alexis! Show us your real singing & dancing skills in another “rick roll” video–that was GREAT! Let’s see her play with da boyz now, as we KNOW that she kicks ass!

By Scuttlebutt on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 4:36 pm

And P.S love the way you have used a frame of alexis froze like she is singing “im a little teapot”.It made chuckle anyways lol.

scuttlebutt
Kul Tiras - EU

By Jeremy on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 4:58 pm

was wandering if u healing was the same person thats on icarly show my sister watches

By Bloodroar on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 5:37 pm

Hey alex, i have a question for you, what happened to Dr. Dark, your rogue? I just noticed that alot of episodes you play as schnoobins.

By Dan on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 8:52 pm

@Jason B.
World of warcraft OSX and Windows XP versions are on the same disc!

By Robert on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 11:22 pm

Hey guys i like the show your doing i have 1 request tho..

would you pls do a whole seggment on what each chars in your partys /s spec is for WoTLK im very intrested to know what talents you are useing. I understand that 1 of you is a prot warrior and 1 is a resto shaman but your spec is the big mystery at this point

Thanks

By Evein on Saturday, September 20th, 2008 at 11:23 pm

HOLY crap! I just saw the cover for the iCarly DVD coming out tuesday… and it appears as though Goggins is on the cover?! Am I late to jump on this bandwagon, or is Goggs a professional actor?!?!

By Egma on Sunday, September 21st, 2008 at 2:25 am

Hey Robert, once the expansion goes live, or once they do live stuff again rather then beta its called armory.worldofwarcraft.com, and yes I know that there is no armory for the beta servers but quit simply by the time the expansion goes live 1/2 the talents will be tweaked again.

Not saying that it wouldn’t be interesting to see what their talent trees are for which ever patch of beta they where on when they ran the instance, just saying that any of the non beta gear/talents you can view by searching the armory, they aren’t to hard to find.

By Vince vito on Sunday, September 21st, 2008 at 3:00 am

WE WANT ALEXIS TO PLAY!!!!!!!!

and i have a question for the guys ……
“Do you guys have a particular favorite instance if so what is it and why?”

By Ryan on Sunday, September 21st, 2008 at 6:21 am

Are you guys ever gonna do a Deathknight?

By Jason B on Sunday, September 21st, 2008 at 7:59 am

@Dan…..now i feel retarded….thanks

But that does save the me trouble of worrying about finding it. Ill just pick up the “battle chest” version and get my character up to 60 in WOW then upgrade to Burning Crusade go to 70 then join the world in Wrath.

I mean it will be a year or so before ANOTHER expansion comes out. Now i just have to worry about having enough money to get a mac for school ( i do a lot of video editing and use Macs for almost everything at school) and a new PC to Play WOW on….preferably both laptops.

By Shinzo on Sunday, September 21st, 2008 at 8:33 am

Only one thing i want to say.
Prot Pally gets mana when healed “Spiritual Attunement” - 10% of the amount healed gets to his mana pool (http://www.wowhead.com/?spell=33776).
With a healer like Goggins i doubt any prot pally will be feeling exhausted

By Simon on Sunday, September 21st, 2008 at 11:51 am

Hey , i have a question for you guy’s ,

Why can’t Juggy also be there? It would be cool having 5 people sitting there , would be more entertaining and easier to see him explain things to us. Also , how many camera’s have you got there? And how do you film the guy’s screen , or is it just something like Fraps or Wegame and then put together with Sony Vegas?It would be awesome if we could see some “behind the scenes” stuff and how things are put together.

Simon from Belgium - EU .

By Schokoladenhase on Monday, September 22nd, 2008 at 1:36 am

I hate to admit it, but i just found project lore … started with episode 1.12 … i dont know if i had watched the show to the end if there wouldnt have been this incredible hot chick moderating.

By ARco on Monday, September 22nd, 2008 at 4:44 am

Alex, i think you and your friends should really give a prot paladin a shot in the show. Check the posts of Xwind and Ryan above ( i know you are familiar with the pros and cons of the prot pally) and i think you and everybody else must realize that the protection paladin doesn’t really run out of mana so easily. I run such a tank myself and I can say that it is interesting and fun because the paladin himself is a very versatile class.

By Justin aka Opium on Tuesday, September 23rd, 2008 at 3:01 am

Nice recap, just wanted to add that yes it is true pallys have mana issues this is no lie. I cant count how many times ive gone oom, in a instance. But to counter act this I bring the spirest, and I have like 100 plus mana pot injectors. I just got my 2 piece tier 6 which is a extra 10% in spirtiual attunment. I can on about prot pallys, and IMHO I thnk there the best for 5 mans lol. http://www.wowarmory.com/character-sheet.xml?r=Kel‘Thuzad&n=Stopium

By Syknezz on Monday, April 6th, 2009 at 7:11 am

as to what alex said about druids being the only class not seen on project lore.. you are incorrect my friend… at this time this was aired there was never a pali until winter came along in place on gon… and until you used your horde toons druids were never shown… but my friends the only class never shown on project lore as their “core group” is concerned is a priest

By Syknezz on Monday, April 6th, 2009 at 7:13 am

as to my last post priest is shown on horde side played by winter… remembered right after post… and why do all you ally people like the drea race so much? better yet why does alot of ally pvp when your racials suck at pvp? anyway blizzard loves you guys more aka “well read” achieve half the books are inside ur main citys