Episode 10.4: Karazhan
After battling many ghostly mobs in Karazhan, Project Lore and pals take a moment to read a book or two and suddenly discover the next boss Terestian Illhoof. Will the Project Lore stop this demonic summoner or will Project Lore be put in chains? Watch this episode to find out.
The regular heroes managed to sucker five other members of the Totally Rad Guild into helping out with the raid. Here are the armories for everyone involved: DrDark, Lylelovett, Goggins, Dorkins, Xenophontos, Manifesto, Talonni, Bastosa, Wyche, and Wilx. There are still plenty of bosses who have loot for our team, so find out what happens over the next few episodes!
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By Juggynaut on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 12:31 pm
Now that you’ve had time to watch, It’s ok to comment
By Rokhan on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 12:32 pm
i dont know if you guys noticed but when you accidentally pulled the group of mana guys before going up that small ramp, you can clearly see wilx shoot them. just thought that was funny to see. and first!
By Xore on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 12:38 pm
Yep, I saw someone pull the group before the ramp too
By NeoEvincar on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
I liked how you guys went for the better strategy, at least in theory. all too often, people want to kill kil’req frist, because he puts a debuff on the boss, but that just creates the problem of having to have the off tank pick him up every time he respawns, and all the dps switching, and unless you have a coordinated run with lots of communication going, thats the main reason that most PuGs fail at this boss.
The strat you guys were talking about before the pull is really the better one, because he doesn’t hit that hard, and so the other tank can just sit on the sidelines, tanking it the entire fight. We normally take kil’req to the back corner, around where the healers start the fight off at, so that he doesn’t get blown up by any dps, or catch aoe damage.
Good Show!
By Rokhan on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 12:40 pm
its right at 13:27 when he shoots the mobs just fyi.
By NeoEvincar on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Btw, I’m wondering whats gonna happen with the shade episode, not a whole lot of trash between the two bosses lol.
By BG on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 12:41 pm
Couple of things you didn’t mention before encounters:
Mana worms are melee dps only (I think Juggy said something about that on the 3rd pull)
During Illhoof’s sacrifice, mages can ice block out, paladins and priests can bubble out.
Otherwise, thoroughly entertaining as usual.
Great job guys!
By Jsmblades on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
Lol, another fun filled project lore episode, and this one had a lot of singing in it.
Do i smell a project lore musical?
By tyki mikk on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
nurse shoes lmao, goggins is the best
By Gerandor on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
God, the episodes are getting long now
awesome! So, as i havent yet entered Kara, how much does the sacrifice chain thing hit the sacrificed for?
By Walls on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 12:52 pm
Not the best strategy. It worked for you guys, but probably because you had practiced it so many times and had the right group composition.
During this fight it’s preferable to have the Paladin tank the boss near the center of the room. Consistently laying down consecrate he can pick up any of the imps that spawn. Also, he’ll get a LOT of mana back due to healing, which is critical in this fight.
The second tank is on Kilrek, and all free DPS should help burn him down whenever he gets summoned. When Kilrek is down the second tank assists the first tank, but keeps an eye open for when Kilrek re-pops.
I have to admit that it is interesting to see other ways to fight bosses, but having used my method more times than I can count I stand firmly by it.
By Walls on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
Gerandor - If the sacrifice is allowed to go it’s full length it will kill the target and heal Ilhoof for a large amount. It is CRITICAL that sacrificed targets are burned down immediately, to free up the sacrificed player and prevent Ilhoof from getting health back.
Also - The tank on Ilhoof can NEVER be sacrificed, so you don’t have to worry about having a second tank hold aggro.
By Promitheus on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 1:17 pm
why don’t the items they are using in the episode and the items in the WoW armory mach?
By Jenna on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
^——–not a band chick
but the band chick comment was funny, especially hearing goggins backpedaling…very nice!
Goggins, we can has more songs? If i can make a suggestion, simpsons theme…think about it, get back to me.
kkthx
By Bittersweet on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
I just love goggins (that is the shammy healers name that sings all the time right? can never remember names >>) comment there after the ramp pull “I just like to point out that everyone in group 1 survived *smirk*” that’s exacly how all healers are.. I should know I am one ^_^
By Eric Mann on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Love the show guys. I have just started with my first character, now level 45. Love the show!
By goliath553 on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Great episode! Love the way the comedy has been ramping up as the episodes progress!
“were not talking while were fighting again” lol.
Keep up the entertaining show.
By Jeff on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 3:24 pm
In case no-one else covered it…
Menagerie = ZOO (in French)
By Dan F on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 4:29 pm
On the illhoof fight you can actually shorten the macro to /tar dem for people who have trouble spelling.
Also you forgot to mention that you need to be fearing the guys that come out of the red portals. And that killing kil’rek weakens the boss and makes the fight a lot faster.
Good job anyways
By Kalliope on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 5:06 pm
@BG
Priests CANNOT bubble out of demonic chains. Only iceblock and pally bubble will do that.
@Promitheus
Because this Kara run took place weeks ago.
@Bittersweet
Not ALL healers are like that, tyvm. Sure, with some classes, it’s much easier to keep your own group alive, but unless you’re specifically assigned to healing the tank, you shouldn’t be letting other people in the raid die if you can help it.
By Kalliope on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Not sure what happened to my existing comment, but I’ll repeat the important part:
PRIESTS CANNOT BUBBLE OUT OF DEMONIC CHAINS.
So don’t try it. x_x
By Kalliope on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 5:35 pm
Oh, nvm, page didn’t update for some reason. Sorry!
By John on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 6:40 pm
Hey Zand nice “discrete” Project Lore advertisement you slipped in there.
By Ieatsouls on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 7:55 pm
You want to take down Kilrek as fast as you can, with him down, Illhoof takes more dmg %. Try this way an you will burn through very quick
By Tonatiuh on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 8:36 pm
I liked how this episode seemed to explain the strategy a bit more clearly. I also liked that the guys mentioned a bit of strategy for some of the trash mobs, specifically the blue elemental guys that explode unless stunned. Those little touches will hopefully eliminate horrible PUGs…hopefully.
Some suggestions:
- could perhaps some explanation from the other 5players in the raid about their own tactics, or maybe could we even get a look at what is going on from their views of the locks, priest, pally, etc. (wtb more prot pally action)
-could we hear the other raiders talk? I know it’s the Project Lore show and the focus should be on those guys, but it is still a raid, not a 5-man - show the other 5 players.
By Draevin on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 9:00 pm
I love the talk about Drumline and colorguard it’s nice to know that there are other WoW players out there that do marching band.
Also can we get an explanation on those girls that keep popping up?
By Kalliope on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
@Draevin
Unless you mean Wyche, the info you’re looking for is here.
By Calli on Thursday, October 9th, 2008 at 11:19 pm
@Draevin: There are numerous books scattered around on the floor in kara once you get into the Library area past Curator. Picking up and reading a book can give you a buff that lasts an hour. These can be:
1. Bonus elemental spell damage when you cast.
2. Extra damage absorbtion.
3. Chance on hit to transform you into a Worgen and cause extra damage.
4. Chance on casting heals to summon a Ghostly healer who will Prayer of Healing on your group.
Number 4 is why Mani ended up looking like a pimp by the end of the vid.
By billtony on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 1:15 am
Dorkkins,
OMG!!! plez friggin do somethin other that steady shot,
try a con shot first then beat the f.ck out the steady.
plez just make us hunters proud bro plez.
maybe a sepent shot somethin, anything plez.
By Discostud on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 2:37 am
Pallies can bubble out of the chains, just right click the bubble buff to get rid of it so you get back aggro
By Silkath on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 2:50 am
Just a couple of additions to the boss strat:
Not only does sacrifice do pretty nasty damage it also heals Illhoof for a significant amount. Having rogues with wounding poison or a MS warrior makes the fight a lot easier.
Neither of the two strategies for dealing with Kil’rek mentioned in the comments above are actually optimal. Kil’rek should be tanked by a dps warrior/feral druid/ret pally (or just a tank in dps gear works fine) IN THE AOE so he dies periodically from the SoC damage. The additional damage Illhoof takes after Kil’rek dies (combined with appropriate use of cds) is a massive boost to dps. Focus-firing Kil’rek can work, but can also reduce dps on Illhoof if people are slow at switching. Tanking Kil’rek away from the raid will make the fight longer, without a doubt.
Don’t fear the imps. It just spreads them out and makes it much harder for the aoe’ers to kill them effectively.
Shadow protection or shadow res aura are also very nice on this fight, makes the Demon Chains damage a lot easier to deal with if your dps is a little slow.
By Kalliope on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 4:18 am
@Billtony
Concussive shot? On bosses? O_o There’s nothing wrong with a steady/KC rotation. It’s quite efficient.
Course, all that changes with the patch, but still.
By Promitheus on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 5:00 am
i have a question.
If i live in Israel (middle east) can i play on the American wow servers?
i played on the American privet servers so maybe i can play on the original American server.
@ lylelovett
as a fellow tank i always use a fast weapon, but i checked you armory and i see you use a weapon with 2.60 speed, so can you tell me what is better for a tank: a fast weapon or a slower one, or do you mostly look at the DPS of the weapon?
P.S - you can answer me at my Email - elirozhinsky@gmail.com
and if you can, point this question out at the wrap up.
By Wyche / Meg on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 6:11 am
The girls that keep popping up? Ha - it’s been me for the whole Kara run!
By Enteri on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 9:05 am
I love this fight on my warlock. Tab seed of corruption, Tab seed of corruption. It helps to be sl sl for this fight as you will take a lot of damage.
Good strategy on the boss!
By John on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 10:10 am
Jerry even though that comment could have been misconstrued as an insult it was really funny.
By deerbate on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 10:25 am
im lvl 70 warlock how do u get the warlck mount
By Tony on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 12:26 pm
Goggins I have a question for you.
While I was babysitting the other day, I stumbled across a show called iCarly, and I was wondering if you have a twin or if that is you on there?
By MrCoffee on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 12:53 pm
@Tony
Babysitting you say? suuuuurre.
But seriously, ya it’s him. Both iCarly and Project Lore are in his wiki page. One thing I didn’t know tho, was that he had a small role in Donnie Darko. I loved that movie.
By Myntar on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
Ok guys want to start off by saying once again I LOVE WHAT YOU ARE DOING! Very big fan. Ok now that the lovy dovey is out of the way….I am curious as to what addons or mods you use. I noticed that Dr.Dark has a curvy half moon shaped health bar thingy pop up in the center of his screen whenever he is in combat. What is that and why do you use it? Also i would like to know how to move the action buttons just below your charactors? I hope these questions make sense. Keep up the awesome job!…oh yeah speaking of jobs, do any of you have full time jobs outside of Project Lore?
By Discostud on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
@Promitheus
I’m not a war but some of their special abilities’s cast time is “Next melee” rather than “Instant”, so you should take that into consideration for a weapon speed. But then again I don’t think tanking wars use those skills much in their threat rotation anyways, which I’m guessing would involve thunderclap, revenge, sunder armor and the likes which are all instant, so weapon speed probably doesn’t matter much for tanking
By Amidaman on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 5:25 pm
wrong, it matters alot. The optimal tanking weapon speed is 1.60 seconds
By Dinedan on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 5:36 pm
You had an overgeared Pally Tank and 2 Locks with you for Illhoof and the Warrior tanked?
Come on Lyle, put on some DPS gear and go to town!
IMO, best strat would have been Bastosa tanking everything in the room. No one touches Kil’rek as the AOE will take him down at nice, steady intervals. Warlocks MUST stand behind Bastosa IN HIS CONSECRATE. This keeps most of the imps off them and in case they do get any he can easily taunt (remember, Righteous Defense works on up to 3 targets!).
Lyle will add much-needed DPS on the chains as well. he can also gather up any stray imps that may be annoying a healer and bring them back to the consecrate.
You know, it would have been pretty easy for Lyle to simply Respec Fury or Arms for the run. he could still drop on tank gear for the few times he was needed. Very few spots require 2 Tanks and geared Prot Pally can solo most of them. Sorry warriors, Kara is a Pally playground - AOE and Undead! Your time to shine comes later on in 25s.
And for reference, I have a Fury Warrior and a Prot Pally - both in T6 content - so I have seen both sides of that coin.
Xinedan/Dinedan - Horde - Feathermoon/US
By BubbleBoy on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
“Asshole Spark?”
Best part of the show Alex, rofl…
By Tony on Friday, October 10th, 2008 at 8:50 pm
@ MrCoffee
Seriously, I was….
Thats cool though.
By josh (AKA on WOW jorlina lev 70 lock) on Sunday, October 12th, 2008 at 7:12 pm
i would like if u responded to this fast at my email
i wanted to know is that sence some people have to know your on project lord do you think get into raids easyer then normal players ? and do you have people like dieing to talk to you on game ?
i would love to get a responce
and goggens you rule it is like your a CIA member hiding in wow that every one wants to get intagated by.
\,,,/(~_~)\,,,/ keep rockin dude
By Jeremy on Monday, October 13th, 2008 at 9:03 am
you should have killed killreck it increases ur damage to ilhoof
By lawrence on Sunday, October 19th, 2008 at 6:44 pm
rofl there like wllks noes how to play and hes prob pissed and hes the one who pulled
By Chacka on Sunday, October 26th, 2008 at 2:34 pm
What does Dr.Dark use for the buff timers? I got D-HUD and now I want the full Alex experience
By Nefasta on Wednesday, November 12th, 2008 at 11:23 am
I think he uses something like SimpleBuffBars or ElkBuffBars.
And can i just say, i love the show but you guys need to work on your skill level
By Gorthex on Saturday, February 21st, 2009 at 8:58 am
He just made the song “Eye of the Tiger” worse then it already was.
By Kyle on Wednesday, March 18th, 2009 at 2:51 pm
oh why did goggins go to tv? he was so awsome
By Mike on Saturday, April 4th, 2009 at 10:34 am
Just to enlighten our hosts: fecundity is a synonym of fertility, ergo the ability to bear children, and a ménagerie in French is a group of animals or a place where animals are kept (for example, circuses have ménageries).
So now you know you have at least one fan in France!
By dobins on Tuesday, September 29th, 2009 at 2:52 pm
why are you puting old movies on the websit not that i dont like kara but i want see something new from Wotlk