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Posted by Bastosa on Friday, June 26th, 2009 - 61 Comments

Tags: badges, bastosa, emblems, heroics, heroism, loot, triumph, valor

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By lawman30 on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 11:49 am

I, too, am super-excited about the badge changes for heroics. I like that they go quick and don’t need 10/25 people to group up in order to do. Kudos to this change!

By Helmarn on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

I also am looking forward to the emblem changes. I enjoy heroics and the relative ease with which you can put a group together.

I wonder if Blizz will enhance the difficulty of the heroics in order to compensate for the better emblem drops and potential gear upgrades from said emblems. Either way though I’m stoked and ready to roll all those dungeons again.

By Iiene of Kul Tiras on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 12:19 pm

This is huge.

I heard about this last night on a Naxx run. I couldn’t believe it. Now I see that it may not be bullshit!

This is huge.

This means even the best geared among us will want to do heroic runs. Which means they will be very easy to do.

It also means it’s a viable way to gear up your new 80’s. I know my guild will be mercilessly grinding heroics after this goes up.

I’ll push for a “2 scrubs rule” that says you can decline the run (If you’re a ringer) if there are more than 2 scrubs in the group.

To clarify… a ‘ringer’ is a geared player with all 200 and up epics. A scrub is a freshly minted 80 with blues/greens.

Wow, you’ll be able to gear up to ‘ringer’ with just heroic runs.

Blizzard shoots… They score!

By penrose on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 12:30 pm

This is great actually… I have a T7+ geared Moonkin and am casually farming and doing instances for fun… I have a NEW 80 Shammy that I would love to play DPS caster, but of course people want the healz… so I do that. The problem we have right now is that the current heroics are bottom of the barrel situation. I healed a CoS run where the highest DPS would have been my new Elemental Shammy, but I was healing, so it was a Shadow Priest. The lowest DPS was not the warrior tank (which was super low for the set that they have) but it was the DPS DK that pulled a whopping 905k DPS sustained in CoS… I have seen blue and green geared DKs do 1.8-2.2k DPS EASILY in CoS because of their AoE spells and the clustering of the mobs.

Heroics are hard for the alts that are coming up for the people that actually know the fights and know how to play… A lot of the population playing heroics now are the group of people who should still be doing runs in regular instances…

If we can get some good players back in the heroics - it will really help the newer 80 alts - yay

By Sathas on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 12:45 pm

This is perfect timing for me as my hunter is 3 levels from 80. My paladin already has pretty much full t8 so it doesn’t really make a huge difference for him. Can’t wait for the patch!

By Muradun on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 12:52 pm

Lol i think blizz made a mistake first they said “Emblems of Conquest can still be converted to Valor or Heroism.” then they say “The existing achievements to collect 1, 25, 50, etc. Emblems of Heroism, Valor, and Conquest have been converted to Feats of Strength since Heroism and Valor Emblems are no longer attainable.” But yay il get geared alot faster now .

By Richard on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 1:04 pm

Lame.

By Snaggly on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 1:07 pm

@ penrose, i think you mean 905 dps, not 905000 dps

By Shamtastik on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 1:15 pm

Still waiting for 5-man heroic van Cleef.

By Ada on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 1:39 pm

This is great, except for a few things. Naxx will be easy, heroics will be EXTERMELY easy, and people will be able to just skip those T7 and T8 raid dungeons.

Don’t get me wrong, I want to get to Ulduar, I wanna be accepted into Naxxramas runs. The thing is, this seems to RUIN the aspect of progression. This means people can just level to 80 and skip right to Tier 8 content or possibly higher.

I think it’s a good idea to keep people from getting to 80 “to late in the game” to raid, but what fun is it if they get to just skip to the hardest content. There must be another way.

One way to look at it is there’s no point to working hard…you could just do nothing for 6 months and wait for Blizzard to hand you the currently best epic gear. Yes I know heroics would need to be done many times, but then again, they’re the earliest level of raid progression; you can’t get close to the best gear from the easiest instances. Level 1 must come before level 5.

By Ada on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 1:42 pm

Now then I’m venting, I suppose it won’t be to bad getting better gear.

By Shala on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 2:03 pm

This patch just made it into the PTR so we’ll have a long wait until it drops, i’m betting 2-4 more months. this will give my two 80’s, a 70 dk, and my 45 hunters plenty of time to gear up “correctly”

By Shala on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 2:06 pm

While i’m not convinced yet, I will say that my priest hit 80 and two weeks went by and she was completely t7.5 geared. Groups are already carrying scrubs through naxx 25 so this new heroic emblem system really isn’t that big of a cluster f as ppl might be thinking

By Pauldy on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

Yea I’m all for opening it up for the casual player but this even I might agree is a step to far. I see how this really opens up the game but now it also means instead of dealing with unexperience players who you might just need to explain some things to now when we hit an instance or 10 man raid pug I could possibly end up in the group where everyone seems epiced out until I realize the mage is wearing an attack power trinket a +agi melee dagger with no off hand and the healer has a defense cloak on. You have to draw a line somewhere that says if your not willing to put forth the effort to understand what your classes possition is then you shouldn’t be in a possition of wasting other players time or energy. The progression from 1-80 should help people learn about their classes but if your idea of leveling is letting your kid play your character for 3 months then you taking it over to assist in your epeen this new setup I can easily see causing much frustration. Here is to hopping the real life examples i know of this gearing are not as wide spread as my personal experience might be leading me to believe.

By Shala on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm

*single lvl 45 hunter*

By mabus on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 2:47 pm

Everyone who complains is just mad they spent all that time getting geared up, its a changing game, you know when new content comes out, you were gonna ditch the old gear anyway, so w/e.

I personally like this, as like many others, rerolled on a better hardcore arena server… and this makes it so much easier to get full deadly again… (my current toon on my old server has full deadly and tier 7.5), soo I am all for this change, as it makes rerolling even better.

By Fengel on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 3:17 pm

I for one don’t like it a bit. It will only mean more noobs will be spamming trade saying stuff like: xxxx (fill in class) LFG Ulduar HC, I have T8 gear and decent set of eoc gear.
What they won’t be mentioning is that they have no idea on tactics, won’t know any boss, and most importantly won’t no anything then to hit the wrong buttons, getting aggro and whiping the raid with it. It’s the worst chance Blizz could do and it’ll ruin the game completely

By Rasmus on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 3:33 pm

I dont like it. The game has turned way too much into a casual gamers game, with this change, ppl that are freshly dinged 80, can walk into ulduar after farming hc’s. with some of the best gear, which other ppl have raided, wiped, cried and cheered for.

But i guess it to make more of the game avalible to most player..

By Christian on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 3:38 pm

This is going to be sweet I am currently working on getting pvp gear without having to grind 10 billion honor, it will be alot easier to get it I also like to run heroics, but i can never find a group.

By freedon on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 3:42 pm

i dont like this cause, all the crappy people will get the t8 without having ot go thru and get the t7 like the rest of us. they should make so that we have to collect a number of badges to get a specified number of the next badge. so that its not mega easy for the baddies to get carried along and get the gear they dont really earn. however i do like how with the new emblem drops from the heroic dailies will get people going back to doing heroics everyday again

By Asher on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 4:22 pm

THIS IS FANTASTIC!!! Most of my guild has cleared 25man naxx and we are working on 10man ulduar, but still we have to run the 25man Naxx to get the lesser geared up. Now we can run a few heroics and get into 10man uld and 25man and our guild can catch up on the rest of the progression. I think blizz wants most raiding guild to be ABLE to experience high end content as it comes.

By Alayea on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 4:44 pm

Feeling tired, so I’m copping out by copy-and-pasting a post I made over on the official forums earlier this week:

“I am all for the change. I can understand where those who are against it are coming from, but you peeps have to understand that not everyone can dedicate so many hours/days to WoW in order to raid. There is such a thing as “Real Life”…

And before anyone thinks that I haven’t worked hard for my gear, you can go check my armory profile. I’ve done every Wrath raid there is (albeit I don’t have much experience at EoE and Ulduar). So if I worked hard for everything, then why am I supporting this change? It’s because I know what it’s like to be shut out of end-game content. I’ve been playing WoW since pre-BC, but it wasn’t until after the Sunwell patch that I hit the level cap. So there I was, a relatively new 70 “LFG” for heroics… and never got a response. Absolutely no one was doing BC heroics. Instead, I had to gear up through PvP-ing which was a nightmare since I’m no good at PvP. I eventually got all the Merciless Gladiator gear and joined a decent guild. By that time, though, not a whole lot of people were doing Karazhan either… This same story will be told yet again by other players if Blizzard doesn’t step up to the plate and do something about it. This same thing that happened in BC is already beginning to happen in WotLK.

Blizzard, there may be a lot of people who disagree with your proposal, but there are also plenty of other players out there who never post on this site that’ll take your side. Please stick to your guns.”

(Also, as noted by some other posters in the WoW forums, you won’t be able to get everything you want from the vendor and the gear’ll still be at least a bit better from the raid instance.)

By onthebuses on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 4:54 pm

@ Bastosa about the deadly gear becoming more easy to get, also just to mention with the new arena season starting very soon, also you will see vendors in stormwind etc, selling the deadly gear , just like they do now with hateful gear. It will probably give you the chance to buy deadly gear through honor kills from BGs. a week or so after arena season starts. So like me I am grinding up to 75000 Honor Points, and getting the full amount of all the BGs marks you can get, so when it hits, i should be able to buy at least 3 parts of the deadly gear. Of course if they add the Isle of Conquest BG to marks as marks you need to turn in, to earn those honor points, then it will be a Isle of Conquest grind also.

By GQ on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 7:08 pm

Back in vanilla wow, I was among the hardest of the hardcore. My guild had every server first from the day the servers went live through the release of BC. We beta tested AQ 40 with the Blizzard developers and designers who were working on the place. Our server was third in the US and fourth or fifth in the world (depending on who you ask) to open the AQ gates event. We cleared Naxx 40 when it was the bleeding edge and the trash wiped raids. I raided six hours a night with my guild, five days a week so I could draw a crowd with my Teir 3 gear while I was afk in Org. I almost flunked out of college doing all of this stuff that most of the players today couldn’t care less about. My point is, I remember busting my ass so that my purple pixels could be better than everyone else’s purple pixels.

But after realizing that I was on the cusp of ruining my entire future for a game, I quit. I deleted all my characters so that I would never come back. I missed almost all of BC except for a handful of Kara runs.

Now if I started playing again today, would I be any less of a good player? My skills might be a tad rusty but raiding today isn’t much different than it used to be (don’t stand in crap on the ground, watch out for the dragon’s tail, be nice to the healers, etc etc). If anything, it’s easier (40 players standing around Thaddius is not a fun time). The real issue would be gear. As someone stated earlier, I would be a scrub because of my quest blues and greens as a fresh, babyface 80. I don’t see this as a casual vs. hardcore issue. Most of patch 3.2 is an insurance policy to make it easy and fun for players to get back into the game when they take a long break or have their characters deleted or hacked. Previously it was either spending the better part of a year regearing or just unsubscribing and finding something more productive to do.

As for people crying about casuals getting gear, well, after five, nearly six years of WoW everyone should know that gear and skill are not mutually exclusive. I’ve lost count of the number of times that one idiot chain-wiped the raid wearing best in slot gear but never got kicked because he’s the guild leader’s brother-in-law. I’ve also seen recruits in less than optimal gear put tagged raiders to shame.

By cocopuff on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 9:01 pm

first of let me start be saying i am all hands on deck for this change i completly support it but i see it as a problem taht you can skip all of the original WOTLK dungeons allso that you cant get valor or heroism i am imaigine its goino be really easy to find a raid now it used to be tht i could raid for 3 hours and then i could do a bit pvping do some mining and really what ever i want now all my time is gointo go in heriocs and this new calisium this is gointo make balaning my 2 accounts even harder allso each expenchion 3 tiers were realeased vannilaa 1-3 BC 4-6 WOTLK 7-? the gates of ice crown arent even open yat and blizz alllreayd 2 tiers and another one on the way waht is artahs gointo be
what tier? i am all for new content but i think blizz is moving to fast

By Veppy on Friday, June 26th, 2009 at 11:15 pm

I don’t generally mind doing heroics again (with both of my 80’s characters), but I do feel it’s a bit forced. I have a beef with 2 issues:

1) People will only be in for the quests. The dungeon itself has nothing new and the challenges are secondary. It will become a grind instead of running an instance.

2) It will cut off all the current end-game content. Barely dinged 80’s will be wearing ilvl245 epics in a week or two. My hard-earned epics will become worthless - both stats-wise and fame-wise. Naxxramas will become barren - not that I care about THAT ONE - and so will Ulduar.

Begs the question: is Blizzard going too casual?

By Hasoondi on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 12:16 am

Although there are many complaints I beg the question of how many achievement whores are out there? I am one that goes for all the achievements that I can. I see this patch bringing more to Naxxramus and other raids with people being geared. The reason I see this is cause of all the hype casual players have about finally hitting 80 and trying to get in to the guild that can put them into any raid. I know because it took me 6 months after WotLK came out to hit 80. Also the rest of the patch tells you why people need the pvp gear. It is for all the people that will need 3s and 5s teams to actually have ratings for titles. 2s teams will only get you arena points. So I say that the upgrade is a plus and that all those that complain must not have enough of a life to get out of the game to understand the casual players fun.

By Antonio on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 1:01 am

I’m agree with you B on the five-man runs. They are way more laid back and less frenetic. But, I on the other hand still crave heroic gear drops, so I’ll take both that and medals for now.

Thanks for the update

By Nick on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 1:15 am

Noobs in T8 …FTW?

By Boooring on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 3:05 am

Is blizzard kidding, this is one of the biggest fails I’ve seen in a long time. I’m all with Nick on this, noobs running around in T8 with no effort at all. And 5-man HC’s will be a joke to farm for persons with t8 ->

By Pegraath on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 4:35 am

Personally I don’t want to be backed up in the Icecrown Citadel raid by an idiot who only dinged 80 two days ago with no/wrong enchants/gems.
I was annoyed enough that I saw a hunter in VoA the other day in Valorous Gloves and legs but the rest was blue! Dps lower than the tank, naturally.
Gear is no longer a reliable meter of ability.
This would be better handled by being able to convert Badges of Justice>Emblems Of Heroism>Emblems Of Valor>Emblems Of Conquest at a 5:1 ratio each. My main has 170 from doing various old instances… That converts to:
170 BoJ
34 EoH
6 EoV
1 EoC (125 BoJ to get 1 EoC).
With no way to get the new Emblem except by doing the new raid. Currently I have no use whatsoever for my Badges, and all my Emblems Of Heroism go into buying gems for new gear.

Pretty sure with t8 gear most hybrids will be able to solo (or at most duo) the UK/VH Heroics. A pally in our guild cleared all Heroic 70 dungeons in t7s solo (inc MgT).

By dps on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 5:32 am

good - this new badge system will make it a hell of alot easier for your alts to get some gear.

bad - the majority of players in each server is terrible. they now have access to high-end gear just by doing some easy shit. sure it will take them time but still, they can get it…which is pretty lame.

But eh, you can also spot the bad ones. Skill is still a factor. If someone has the gear but can;t do more then 3k, then you can tell those are the crappy noobs.

WoW is slowly fading…the easier it is to attain gear, the more players will get bored and leave all together. But then again, blizz does have a new MMO planned for next year….probably just giving WoW it’s last breathes. Icecrown Citadel will probably have 10 badges from heroics, 5 from heroic daily, 3 from reg daily, have badges hidden around the world(like an easter egg hunt), and trivia questions in which you get right they will hand you a badge…maybe 2!!!

By Darkdreamer on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 6:49 am

this is great news for me , seeing as im a resto druid who wishes to be a boomy D: and my pally is almost 80 X3 not to mention i love heroics >w< so much easier than farming raids once a week and getting nothing from it

By GQ on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 8:44 am

It’s five pieces of set gear. Last time I checked there are still twelve other gear slots that aren’t effected by this change.

No one will stop going on raids because they have five set items.

By Allouez on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 8:59 am

I quit WoW two months ago and this new badge system might make me want to go back.

Blizzard is making the right choice with this because they wanted the casuals to see more endgame, and this is also good for people coming back into the game.

Also dont judge the people with crapy gear because if they know how to play there class they will be excellent in dps.

By Nomzz on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 10:17 am

To agree with GQ:

You cant even buy all 5 pieces with your EoC. Only the Helmet and Chest are available. That makes 15 gear slots that arent effected. If you take someone with only 2 pieces of T8 and the rest of their gear is horrible, thats your fault.

By Conxcore on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 10:40 am

I like that they’re doing this.

It’s gunna be more like TBC when you could farm heroics for better gear than some raids.

By Laeltis on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 11:49 am

I think this is the best move Blizzard has made in a long time. They progress us futher into content, then they go BAM! Come back to the previous content! They give us a reason to go back, to go forward. I love this. It’s going to be great. What’s even better is we go for the Conquest Emblems, but once we’re done, we want to continue for the Emblems of Triumph. Blizzard just covered the bases here.

Great job Blizzard.

By Cedric on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 12:13 pm

It’s nice that we can all get T8 gears after this patch comes out, I just feel bad for all of those that first went through Ulduar and had to learn all the fights before they got themselves geared…

By Frontaxe on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 1:54 pm

pfff al the time grinding the emblems with raids that took so mutch time and with 1 patch all that time was useles?????

Damn!!!!

ofcourse i can do the newer raids but my guild would spend more time to boost the lowergeared people in the guild with heroic’s.

By Jeff on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 4:45 pm

Just looks like another reason for the Recount addicts to up the bar on their DPS ‘wants’; all of which I will maintain with my dying breath as being totally unquantifiable…

Blizzard wants more people to get access to the better gear, but those who live by Recount, et al are doing all they can to redress any progress Blizzard allows…

… go figure…

Upshot of all this…? I’ll wait ’til the next expansion before soloing the BC ones & getting the experience that way.

By Jeff on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 4:47 pm

*BC ones - Heroics.

By Jeff on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 4:55 pm

@ dps (& all the other dps-meter hard-liners) …

Tell me where on the character sheet stat’s it quantifies your DPS capability…? Yes; actually QUOTES that your character is able to maintain over 2000dps (for example) on EVERY single encounter they have…?

By Ring on Saturday, June 27th, 2009 at 10:18 pm

Lame.

Origingal WoW - no badges. Still awesome.
BC - a single type of badge. Cool improvement.
WotLK - up to 4 different badges so far. Annoying.

I dont think they need to be doing all these big patch updates so often. Yes, the people that play all the time may get bored, but oh well. We all pay the same monthly fee, no matter if we play 10 days or all 30. Seems kind of discouraging. Then I’ll finally start getting triumph badges and those will be outdated. WotLK hasn’t even been out a year yet and so many changes. Its fun, let us all have time to play it as it was originally intended.

-end rant-



By Iquitwow on Sunday, June 28th, 2009 at 2:10 am

Everyone please quit, this game is TERRIBLE. Too Easy. Crap graphics. Crap gameplay. BrokeN pvp. Broken Game. BROKEN. Crap. Jesus, this game SUCKS. It’s is ment for 8 year olds and people who love to whine all damn day.

Not to mention the community in this game IS IN FACT the worst community in any online multiplayer game.

By cocopuff on Sunday, June 28th, 2009 at 7:28 am

@ iquitwow

if you feel like that perhaaps this game really isnt for you go try runescape

By the uber elite 1 on Sunday, June 28th, 2009 at 8:05 am

guys who havent been in the test realms or ptr or whatever…if u know what happend to star wars galaxies this is gonna be exactly the same..this patch will completely screw up the game..the content is good but the changed everything to fast..and everything on the same patch…start playing cs instead…

By bizzareodin on Sunday, June 28th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

You can get 2 pieces of T8 without ever stepping into a raid. LOL, WoW sure has changed…

By cocopuff on Sunday, June 28th, 2009 at 12:51 pm

the only porblem is running into a rai with 2 t8 and a bunch of herioc gearand then later having a comobo of t7 and t8 gear not being able to complete the set till ulduar its jsut a big tease but like those of you QQ about the game getting to easy and all the time you wasted on raids i will ahve to get over it

By wowhero on Sunday, June 28th, 2009 at 5:13 pm

i think this is a stupid thing for blizzard to do, you are screwing over all of the people that put time into the game to get there tier 8 gear. now your going let peole who just turned level 80 tier 8 gear in less than 2 weeks. plus no one is going to want to run naxx, voa, and os because everyone is going to have all of the gear anyways…. blizzard is shooting them selfes in the foot here.

By Sam on Sunday, June 28th, 2009 at 5:35 pm

I love the notion that some badge loot and two tier pieces are going to mean Ulduar is a ghost town, in that it’s completely ridiculous.

I hear no one will want Voldrethar because they can get some mediocre 245 gear and a Titansteel Destroyer.

By stan on Monday, June 29th, 2009 at 8:14 am

This change is over complicated. Why not allow Heroic and Valor emblems to purchase Conquest at a steep rate. 10:1 and 5:1 or something.

I get that the game is old and Blizz is afraid people can’t get on board if they are late starters but they should have left the artificial boosting to levelling and XP rate increases.

Shortening the end game content by stripping out its earliest ties is just self defeating.

Insted of “time=good and work=epics” we are stuck with “time=epics and work=unnecessary”

I hope this proves me wrong in the long run but I doubt it.

By Sam on Monday, June 29th, 2009 at 10:16 am

I understand Blizz wanting new 80s a way to catch up to the current raid content, but this is just stupid. It completely undermines the 1000s of gold I’ve dropped (and many other players) in repairs in Ulduar by letting someone get T8 gear by running laughably easy heroics.

There are other ways to preserve progression and avoid rewarding bad players. How about buffing the drop rates for gear in Naxx, OS, etc.

Make the 10 man version drop the same emblems as the 25 man. While this is close to the proposed change, I think the player base would more readily accept this.

Maybe drop more emblems per boss so purchasing gear can be made quicker, but you still need to prove that you’re a skilled player and have gone though the progression like everyone else.

This is only going to make PUG achievement requirements more important than gear checking.

By Tet on Monday, June 29th, 2009 at 1:21 pm

I might just end my wow breake to have a peak at this when the patch drops….mainly because my main reason for taking a wow break was due to me not having enough time to do 25’s.

Personally i think this is a great thing for peeps that cannot play wow everynight or raid everynight.

By Gurm on Tuesday, June 30th, 2009 at 10:34 am

I saw the exact opposite happen when I was playing Everquest. Raiders were very happy, new content was raid-friendly and progression required dedicated players. Casual players didn’t get much love.

What happened? Casual players stopped playing. As soon as you were off the raid-train you basically had no chance of catching up.

There is no such thing as too casual friendly. There are more people born who are willing to try a friendly game than there are hardcore players.

Yes, this will trivialize gear somewhat, but there’s no reason to penalize inexperienced players from content. Hardcore raiders will have their noob-free guilds and officers can use achievements as well as gear to check someone’s progress.

By Kyle on Tuesday, June 30th, 2009 at 10:48 am

i like the idea, but now people wont bother to do naxx 25 because they can just farm heroics, which is easier than naxx. Blizzard wanted people to enjoy all the 5 man content that they spent all that time making, but now that they are bringing them back, nobody will enjoy the naxx that they have tweaked and worked on for a long time because there is simply no need. Maybe people will do it for the achievements, but i dont think that is enough for people to go back to naxx. I believe naxx will be, pardon the pun, a ghost town.

By Fanden on Thursday, July 2nd, 2009 at 12:14 pm

Why would a casual gamer raid Crusader’s Coliseum?
I dislike this change,(prolly because i play too much, ty) and feel i have wasted several months getting epixx.

Most raiders will most likely find this new change to be bad, and they are the players that have been peying to Blizz for, who knows how long.

Ridiculous.

By Fanden on Thursday, July 2nd, 2009 at 12:16 pm

Why would i ever wanna go Naxx or Ulduar again?

By VoiceOfReason on Thursday, July 16th, 2009 at 10:09 pm

All I’ve read is nothing more than childish complaints.

So what if newly dinged 80 players have a chance at some decent gear? Does it stop you doing whatever your already doing?

It still takes some skill to put the gear to some use.

Its understandable to complain about this when you’ve worked so hard on your current gear. I have just managed to get myself geared up enough to enter Ulduar 10man. I’ve worked my socks off to get the gear/enchants/gems to be able to go to Ulduar. But then I am the only person in my guild able to do so. Others have only just about got themselves geard for Naxx10.

This new system is going to give them a chance to get geared up so that we can enter raids as a guild finally. We will do every raid whether its Naxx, VoA, EoE, OS or Ulduar. Simply because we want to see all the end game content.

The patch is a good thing if looked at in the correct way.

By VoiceOfReason on Thursday, July 16th, 2009 at 10:10 pm

Plus, it is just a game. I actually have a ‘Real Life’ that gets me away from my screen to interact with real people not their toons!

By Dustin on Sunday, August 2nd, 2009 at 6:40 am

LOL wtf are you guys talking about that this might ruin the game… or that noobs will be able to do ulduar?

ITS ONLY TOKENS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

not the whole fuckin set drop.. so what the damn noobs are gonna get like 2 pieces of tier. The heroics aren’t gonna drop a tier 8 piece lol. you guys make the damn patch feel like HC’s are the only thing you have to do to gear the fuck up. The most your gonna get with these conquest emblems are like gloves or chest of t7/8 and maybe like 1 good ring or trinket. How the hell is that ruining the game lol? It’s helping alts with a couple items… not the whole damn set.

great job blizz! keep doing your thing.