Posted by Juggynaut on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 - 47 Comments
Tags: achievement, be mine, egg hunt, holiday, meta achievement, noble gardener, noblegarden, random, rng, violet proto drake, what a long strange trip its been, world event
Noblegarden started on Sunday, and if you’re like me, you want that Violet Proto Drake, which means you’ll have to get your egg hunt on. Being a late addition to the Long, Strange Trip world event meta-achievement, the collection of achievements required to attain “the Noble” title was quite certainly affected by feedback from the player community regarding other similar achievements. If you remember, many players were upset that they had to rely heavily on the Random Number Generator (RNG) for certain parts of the other holiday meta-achievements. Luckily, Blizzard recognized this fact and both retroactively changed the Fool for Love achievement and decided against including random achievements in the Noble Gardener meta-achievement.
While there are still Noblegarden achievements that do rely on the RNG - Sunday’s Finest and Dressed for the Occasion - they are not part of the Meta. This means it is basically possible - even with the worst of luck - to brute force your way to the title, getting one step closer to that 310% flying mount. Breaking it down, you’ll have to open the following number of eggs to complete all of the required achievements:
100 for eating (Required for Chocoholic)
100 for Spring Rabbit’s Foot (Required for Spring Fling)
50 for Spring Flowers (Required for Shake Your Bunny-Maker)
50 for Spring Robes (Required for Desert Rose)
5 for Noblegarden Egg (Required for Noble Garden)
This totals out to 305 eggs, which will take a bit of a time investment. If you manage to find an egg every 15 seconds, that will come out to over an hour of egg hunting. If you have more trouble finding the eggs, it will take even longer. Remember, this is the maximum number of eggs you’ll have to open. Most people I talked to got at least one required item within the first 50 or so eggs they opened, so you’ll probably need to open fewer eggs. By the time I had looted 300 eggs, I already found nearly everything I needed from the eggs, so I purchased the last thing I needed - the spring flowers - and picked up the Spring Circlet to complete my collection.
All of the other items you’ll need for achievements are obtainable through other means. The Tuxedo Shirt, Tuxedo Pants, and Elegant Dress are all tradeable, meaning you can get Blushing Bride for a few coins at the auction house or even free if you find a generous person who will loan or give you a tux. Remember, though, you will not get Sunday’s Finest or Dressed for the Occasion unless you specifically loot the items from eggs. The Blossoming Branch is a reward for the daily quest to turn in 20 egg shells and can be used on other players to help them get Hard Boiled. Remember to find someone who has one in their inventory to help you get that one. The Spring Circlet, for 50 chocolates, is not used in any achievements. Mages may want to collect the Tome of Polymorph: Rabbit, which can be purchased for another 100 chocolates.
Even though the requirements for the meta-achievement are not completely dictated by the RNG like Be Mine! was, they can still take a significant amount of time to complete. I’d estimate that it took me three to four hours to complete all of them, including collecting eggs, traveling, and finding all of those females for Shake Your Bunny-Maker. So, do you guys prefer having alternative ways of getting items in addition to the RNG, or would you rather just leave out the randomness completely? Or heck, would you prefer all of it to be in fate’s hands?
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By nice on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 1:11 pm
hmm, i would like to do this event but i have my exams T.T
By elion on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 1:13 pm
FIRST!!!!!!!!
By cocopuff on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
i whould estimate that i have colleced a bit more than 200 eggs for the whole set i got 3 rabits foot 3 tuxedos 2 pants 2 circets 3 bucades 1 dress i guass you can call me lucky but for the past 2 days i been trying to get shake you’re bunny maker and i only have all the aliance females and a blood elf and an undead i still a touren an an orc nd a troll any sugestions? allso i nooticed a a glich or something some tiems when i loged or got DCed i lost some chocolates i whould estimate i had lost about 80 chocolates like that any one ellse have taht problem?
By Mahabone on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
it took me about 3 hours to finish the event, i found a nice little farm spot in goldshire that spawned between 4-5 eggs every 10-15 seconds.
I like it way better that the randomness was removed, and that you could purchase whatever u needed for the title.
By Germ508 on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
Yes Elion you are First!!!!, the First!!! moron of this post, I guess it’s whatever makes you happy.
I usually stay away from these events, but after a couple of days of seeing everyone else do them, I jump on the band wagon and try to have some fun. Thanks for spelling out what needs to be done.
By noobalicious on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
Elion…you’re a tool
By Kalcifer on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
i was wondering why with the new patch i all os a sudden got the Be Mine achievement and then the title. That acheivement was doing my head in. I grinded every hour of every day for candy bags and i never got them. So now one step closer to proto drake. Although i am going to get stuck at the Children’s week one coming up because of my complete lack of pvp experience.
By Wilson on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
It’s a great holiday, however once people begin to grasp and understand where the eggs spawn then it becomes a day of camping spawns points in each starter zone and beating others players to the eggs.
By Raknor on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
I agree with Wilson, this holiday ceased to be about running around finding eggs and more about sitting on a spawn location. Pretty lame.
By Joenips on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
I seemed to be lucky for the Shake Your Bunny-Maker achievement. Found all my horde in dalaran by the north bank and the dwarf female in Ironforge.. All the other Alliance females I held off on because I didnt want to blew my CD if i found the rarer females out there.
By James on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
I became totally uninterested when I went to Elwynn and found a plethora of players camped at each spawn location. *Yawn*
Heroics and Wintergrasp suddenly became much more appealing.
By Snaggly on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
@cocopuff - Please learn to type, and at least read over what your posting before you submit it.
By Bloodstrong on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
This could be fun if it wasn’t for all the egg spawn campers. Maybe they could have spread it out over the entire beginning areas instead of just around the towns.
By Krowtz on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 2:42 pm
I would love to do all of these holiday achievements for the prot drake if they weren’t so boring. Brewfest and Hollow’s End for me thanks.
By Ommadon on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
@cocopuff
Dude you really need to type better, if nothing else just use Word to type it all then click spell check. There comes a point where your typing affects whether or not people can read and understand what you’re saying.
By Kyndranigar on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Female orcs don’t exist, a rare and fabled creature.
By Jaktion on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
I had to barely open more than 200
100 for eating chocolate, and another 100 to purchase the Spring rabbit
The rest I have multiples of from the eggs
All I have left to do is find a female Tauren, Orc, and Undead!
By Jaktion on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 4:29 pm
Sorry for the double post, but to those who are attacking cocopuff, Please, I am 100% sure you knew what he meant to say, be more productive if you need to comment on what he said, answer his question instead of trying to tear him down
I would suggest trying to run around the Horde starting area where there is plenty running around for you to hit with the bunny ears. Just be careful to not attack the guards. Unless your on a PvP server, then I would just suggest doing battlegrounds. But I havnt had any problems with disappearing chocolate
By lolz on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
cocopuff i had the same problem i lost many chocolates that way i found out the cause to. If you dont hit logout/exit game button before you turn off computer/alt f4 it doesnt kep track of some o your eggs you eat. Chocolholic is defenitly the hardest of the achievements for the meta.
By erutan on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
shut up
By Josh on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
i just wish bliz would make the events longer not enough time to do them
By gron on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 6:32 pm
very easy event i gto all the items and now im doin the achievs the hard thing is find the orc female and troll the dwarf was the easiest cuz i got a girlfriend dwarf
By Ombrenoire on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 7:08 pm
I would have to say I was extremely lucky since I found everything in the eggs within the first hour of egg camping. I then proceeded in order:
1. Kissed a girl wearing a dress
2. Planted flowers in all the listed deserts
3. Hard boiled thanks to a guildie
4. Stuck an egg in SW
5. Shook that bouquet at the female of every race (took me 3 hours to find the Tauren female)
The RNG really sucks though since a lot of people, myself included, missed out on achievements because the damned item we needed never materialized. That particular effect should be removed… but then I guess we go back to “this game is too easy” mode again.
*le sigh*
By Akma on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 8:08 pm
I started this out on sunday morning at around 9 server, and was just gonna get enough chocolates to buy the pet, and call it quits when at about chocolate 97 the pet dropped and i already had the items, so I decided to complete the rest of the achievements, had to get a friend to log onto his horde character to complete it, finished at about 3 server time
By johann on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 8:50 pm
It took me over 500 eggs to get all but one acheive. I didnt get the White Tux, so i just bought it and got the metacheive
By Rumproastt on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 11:06 pm
This holiday is one of the easiest yet. I have done it on my main and parts of it on 7 alts. I don’t camp spawns, run around the Horde areas like a crazy person finding tons of eggs.
I did notice that some people have no idea how to find eggs. If they are not in plain sight they run right by them.
By Rumproastt on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 11:07 pm
Also, I am a Tauren Female…we do exist
By oboc on Tuesday, April 28th, 2009 at 11:13 pm
Only had to loot 200ish eggs here - some things dropped, others bought with choc.
Hardest part was trying to find a female dwarf.
Hallows End is still the best/most fun holiday event so far imo.
By Intravax on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 6:25 am
I looted over 400+ eggs over a 3 day period and never got anything other than spring branch. I think my toon was bugged. I ended up having to buy everything from the Noblegarden vendor. You can imagine my frustration.
By Slyfanitor on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 7:16 am
I got the title in 3 hours after logging in when it was already on and got all the items needed from the eggs, only thing I had a tough time getting was the Elegant Dress for Dressed for the Occasion… I knew it wasnt required for the meta obviously, but since it was the only one left in the list I just couldn’t make myself just leave as it is… I HAD to get that last bit too (achievement addict, I confess) it took over 1400+ eggs for the dress, my mage and dk both got it in 40th egg or so
By dw1nk on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 7:46 am
I like this achievement I’m a female dwarf lvl 80 and was teased since lvl one its about time we got some props. We are now loved.
By lawman30 on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 7:57 am
At this rate we all ought to get a 310 mount just for logging on. My first impression of the 310 mount for completing Long Strange Trip was that it was a fitting reward for those who dedicated themselves to the achievement. After all, if memory serves me correctly the only other way to get a 310 mount was to win the roll on Ashes (like THAT drops regularly =P) or to have an arena reward mount (which goes to what, the top .5% or somethig insane like that?). The point is the 310 mount was rare and special.
Then Blizz took out the brew of the month Brewfest requirement when people complained. Then it took out the Hallow’s End mask requirement when people complained. Then it changed the candy requirement from Love is in the Air when people complained. Now they’ve just gone and made it so that you GUARANTEE completing Noblegarden if you’re willing to do the grind. So much for 310 mounts being special. Everyone and their mother will have one so what’s the point? I busted my a$$ trying to hammer out all of the original achievements necessary for the respective metas and when I didn’t get them all, I was OK with it because I believe a 310 mount should ot just be handed over. There WERE people that completed ALL of the necessary metas before they were changed. Luck and effort were on their side. They were deserving. To eliminate luck for the 310 mount starts you down the slippery slope. Where does it end? Lots of groups come one fight away from the Immortal, but bad luck bites them in the a$$. They don’t get their title. Blizz doesn’t nerf the achievement to allow just one or two deaths. So why the changes for the mount.?
It really bugs me to the point I haven’t started any of the Noblegarden achievements. My plan is to wait for Blizz to change the requirements for completing Trip and getting the 310 mount to “You get all the necessary achievements if you at least THOUGHT ABOUT doing them.” That seems fair, right? Maybe enough of us just gotta complain about it. =P
By Deidare on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Ha I finished this holiday on this first day it came out, it really isn’t that hard at all to do. In fact If i’m correct, you don’t have to be level 80 to complete it. Good luck and if you need help on this holiday for information check out wowhead.com thats were I went.
By Ombrenoire on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 8:48 am
For Merry Maker and Hallowed, I am just missing the PvP aspects to clear them out of my log. I would have gotten the Love Fool done had it not been for a slight problem with a tech guy and his not wanting to give my computer back after my upgrade.
So I won’t finish the Long Strange Trip this year, big deal! I\ll just do it next year and see what new stuff comes out to do ^_^
Did I mention I’m an achievement whore?
By Powar on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 8:51 am
I got noble yesterday, I only bought the tuxedo pants and the rabbit after I bought the rabbit it dropped in an two/three times all of the items drop in the eggs.
Even though I have the noble title I only need tuxedo pants to drop in an egg to officially complete all the noble garden achievements.
By Powar on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 8:52 am
also I only started it on monday night so it took less than 5 hours or so to complete once you add up game ime and alot of that was travelling and finding a female orc.
By Davo on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 10:10 am
Just a tip for doing Shake Your Bunny-Maker. If you don’t want to wait the five minutes for the item to cooldown, sign up for an arena 2v2 skirmish. Since the items cooldown is 5 minutes or under it resets, so you can just sign up and leave and it’ll be back off cooldown. You won’t get Deserter debuff since it’s a skirmish, so you can do it all you need.
By Alayea on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 10:49 am
I started doing Noblegarden about an hour after it had started. Got some of the stuff, such as the Elegant Dress, White Tuxedo Shirt, and Spring Robe. So that took about an hour in itself. Then my twin and I ran all the way from Bloodhoof Village to Golakka Springs because we weren’t sure if the wand effect would count towards Hard Boiled (yes, we know better now). Grinded for the Chocoholic and got the Blushing Bride achievement a couple days later with the help of my brothers. I still have yet to get the Shake Your Bunny-Maker and Spring Fling. Due to Blizzard’s failure to either create more spawn areas or increase the spawn rate, I have trouble grinding the eggs I need to pick up both the basket and the bunny. My best bet at this point has been to find a decent spot and camp it. Kinda takes the fun out of it, ne?
By Alayea on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 10:57 am
Sorry for the double post. I forgot to include it in my first.
@lawman30
Just because people complain doesn’t necessarily mean that they’re not dedicated. Goodness knows I grinded and grinded for the Be Mine! achievement, only to NEVER GET IT (even with the retroactive change). It was the only one I needed for the meta-achievement, too, sadly. Going to have to wait a whole another year to attain it.
So yes, I believe in rewarding dedication, lawman30. But I’ll let you in on a little something: the RNG itself is blind to whether a person is working hard or just being a lazy bum. Do you you want to see a person get a hard achievement easy because s/he merely had the luck of the draw?
By pauldy on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 11:11 am
I was in a raid when the event started but once I saw that achievement come across guild chat I knew I wasn’t getting any sleep that night. As soon as we closed down for the night I mage ported to org to find nothing but campers in razor fin. So I decided to check out brill, bingo. Everyone was just running around grabbing eggs, about 2 and half hours into it we got a few lame campers setting up tents at spawn locations. I just left them there I was getting 10 eggs running around to their one spawn. More often than not they were covering to many eggs and I would arrive just as one was spawning to take it from them, good times… Lots of luck on my side as I was saving up for the most expensive item it was looking like I would need to save for the robes next but on what I thought was my last eggo for the tome of plymorph the robes dropped. Leaving me to find one more egg and head off to complete the none egg related pieces.
By Baek on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 12:04 pm
When my wife and I saw the first “I Found One!” achievement pop up we knew that we were in for a long night of egg hunting. She works overnights and had the night off so it was perfect for her and she got her title within the first 12 hours of Noble Garden being released, I got mine when I woke up the next morning. Sort of luck based as I was almost having to buy my pet for the bunny achievement but lucked out in the morning with RNG. Something that a lot of people don’t get is that you don’t have to do every achievement for the holiday event to complete the meta achievement for the Title/mount. Things being tradeable for the blushing bride and things being purchasable with chocolates made it either a matter of time or RNG so I’m pretty happy with how it’s going myself.
By gron on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
i got my title but i had to camp while i was dead like 2 hours at the orgrimmar bank to find a ugly orc then i get the title and get killed and everybody was spiting me =(
i still got 182 eggs 2 bunnies and 2 spring tuxedo suit
By Attacca on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
i think noblegarden is the coolest world event that i have taken part in. it is good for all levels, even a levl 6 priest. There are a ton of eggs in Falconwing Square for horde 1 every 15 would not be a problem!!!!
By iTZKooPA on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 2:02 pm
I spent about a half hour getting chocolates together for the bunny before I got him as a random drop. He sucks, just too plain and average
I like that they took out the pain of RNG, but the event still fails IMO. This is mainly due to the fact that you can only find eggs in a very small amount of space, around very few starting zones.
By TAToutik on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
I think the best location to Farm the eggs as a Horde, is in Falconwing behind the cart or trailer or w/e it is next to the Weapon seller on the right side of the Inn. Theres a potential of 5 to 7 eggs you can farm over and over.
By lawman30 on Wednesday, April 29th, 2009 at 8:57 pm
@Alayea
That’s EXACTLY what I’m saying. Luck SHOULD be part of something special like a 310 mount. At this rate it’s going to end up being harder to get the blue proto drake (a 280 mount) than it is to get the violet proto drake (the 310 mount). How the hell does that make any sense? Oh sure, it takes longer to get the violet but big deal…ANY ONE CAN GET IT! My point is that the way it was set up originally, it not only took an INCREDIBLE amount of time and effort to complete the meta achievements but it also took some luck. That is fitting for being GIVEN a 310 mount. Now you eliminate the luck and just make it so that a simple grind gets you soething that good?!?! That is bass ackwards to me. It doesn’t just take skill to get Immortal it takes luck, too. You need to not have anyone dc or, god forbid, lag out in boss fights. You need to not have the server crash (which certainly isn’t always a given). Think Blizz is gonna give everyone in your raid the Immortal title just because bad luck caused someone to lag and they dided in the red circles of doom on KT? Yeah right. Blizz will tell you “sorry, better LUCK next time.” Luck is inectricably linked to a lot of the high end rewards and I certainly think a 310 mount fits that bill.
I’m sure most people are thrilled with the changes because it means completing Trip is exponentially easier now. If the goal is to just hand out proto drakes, make it so you can buy the green one from the Oracle egg instead of needing luck to have it hatch. Make the blue one a 100% drop if you kill Skaddi within a certain period of time after starting the gauntlet (kinda like the bronze drake) instead of needing luck to have it drop. Explain to me why it makes sense that more people will have violet proto drakes than blue ones or green ones. It doesn’t. They should have left it the way it was. That’s my opinion.
By PatrickD on Thursday, April 30th, 2009 at 12:24 pm
If you sit there waiting for an egg to respawn, you are an idiot. Your best bet is to find a handful of spawn points and run between them.
Also, do it during non-prime time if you can when there are fewer people competing for eggs. …and do it in an area without a lot of people (like the BC starting towns and NOT Thorn Hill or Goldshire.)
…but good luck finding female orcs and tauren. I wasted about 5 charges on male tauren because they’ve all got about the same build and the addition of headgear makes it impossible to tell when they’re running by.