Calling All Priests - 3.0.2 Spec Chat Here

Posted by iTZKooPA on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 - 39 Comments

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So How About This For CRITSI believe that one of the biggest issues with raiding and partying in World of Warcraft is ego. So many people out there think that they know the game better than the creators themselves.  That confidence can often be a player’s downfall. The fact of the matter is this, probably less than 1% of World of Warcraft players know it well enough to be considered experts at the game.

Sure, many players known their class very well, but do they know its utility for raids, parties, Battlegrounds, Arenas and every boss fight? Not likely. What about the other classes?  Do they know how to get the most out of the Auction House? The ins and outs of WoW’s scripting language? The often neglected lore? Doubtful.

You may think I am here to gripe about how we could all open our eyes and learn a little from our guildmates, PUG-mates or Buddhism, but I promise you that isn’t the case. Sure, I showed an officer last night that he could link his professional abilities rather than telling everyone what he can do, but he was gracious about learning from the “new blood.” I am actually here to ask for help.

If you have been following my blog here at Project Lore, then you know that I made a Priest alt for the Refer-a-Friend promotion. I have never, ever, in all the MMOs I have played, gone healing. With Wrath coming in less than a month’s time, I figured now is as good a time as any. With the refunded talent points I created this healing spec. Let me restate this, while I know the basics of healing, I certainly do not know the nitty-gritty details. My spec was designed to reduce casting time and mana consumption, while bolstering heals and crit heals and the chance to crit. Survivability was an afterthought.

I do realize that being new to the “keeping people alive” rather than “killing everything that moves” mentality will likely cause me to waste tons of mana on overheals. So, the Serendipity talent is something I will likely move too. So Priests, and healers in general, now is your time to shine. Constructive criticism is greatly appreciated – that means the first poster better have some good input – and it just doesn’t have to be talent spec pointers. Good addon, macro or rotation suggestions are welcome too!

I did create one macro already, my personal “Oh, shit!” button which I stole from my brother’s old Priest. It yells, says, sends to party and raid the following message: “Fox! Get this guy off me!”

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    By Jonathan on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 2:29 pm

    Haha :D i know how you must feel, i used to be a hunter (still is technically…) but decided to make a kick ass druid that would heal when it became 70. So i did hit 70 one day and went resto, it was the greatest feeling i ever had lol. First i was playing around with all the heals, how much mana it costs and how much it heals then came up with the best ways to get in lots of healing in a short amount of time. As a druid healer its really HoT and run around i don’t really use addons for specific classes so i can’t really say i know which add-ons are good to use but i know this much… Spec yourself based on what you like to do and try to look at the big picture before you click those valuable talent points! For example i would do something like increase the healing done by “x” rather then reduce the amount of threat caused by your healing spells by “x”. you see where i’m going with this, right? I am a student of WoW as well nobody really can be perfect, everyone has their style of playing you know. Well thanks for listening to this useless elf and go out there and try everything and anyways you possibly can! Good luck :)

    By Woodynz on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 2:31 pm

    Kudo’s for you man, too many people rave about DPS in a group & very few take up the less stardom like roles.

    I roled a SP for my first alt, well to be honest he was a healer…… but 30 odd painful lvl’s levelling soon had me jump to SP when someone piped up and called me a “nub!” lvl shadow, respec holly they said, and for lvling purposes stack spirit if you can (if you roll SP for lvl’ing that is) as its soo painful having to drink n eat after every time something farts your way

    By ltgalloway on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 2:32 pm

    Why no Inner Focus? You could move the point from inspiration maybe? I could be way off base here.

    By Ryan on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 2:34 pm

    There is going to be a lot of number crunching going on here…The “cookie cutter” spec is still up in the air. Being a priest from a T6 guild, I still don’t know exactly what I am going to like. Personally I am upset with the patch.

    Downranking was a HUGE part of being a priest…now that’s gone. As for your spec, its not bad…

    I personally think that Silent Resolve is useless…If you pull aggro, that’s not a good sign, and we have Fade for a reason.

    You’re spec’d into COH but no Holy Reach. I personally want the biggest range I can get.

    Lightwell has been buffed, but I still don’t know if it truely has a spot in raids. We’ll see about that.

    In my opinion, Guardian Spirit is pretty much useless right now…It has a cool concept, but you almost have to expect a tank to die…and see it coming within 10 seconds…sounds like some luck to me…Yeah it gives a healing buff for you, but still is pretty useless…

    In my last spec, I loved Inspiration…but I can see how you left some points off…

    Not a bad spec though…I might even go Disc to raid…its got some cool stuff in that tree as well. We’ll see though..gots to get them math wiz’s outa the closet and crunch some numbers for us!

    By Falcon on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 2:41 pm

    LOL i like the starfox comment i have never healed either but would like to try but just to let you know you actually learn a lot while browsing the forums and asking questions

    By Avonmore on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 4:48 pm

    Because we lost downranking, you may find yourself overhealing more than you realize; and serendipity would be a benefit. Of course, it comes down to your own healing style. If you watch the Holy Concentration and Surge of Light procs you can utilize them to the upmost and conserve your mana. I will admit that I’m lousy at watching for procs – I’m too caught up in the frenetic pace of a boss kill and have my eyes clued to xperl watching my fellow raiders’ health. I spent the points in Surge of Light and one point in Holy Concentration because I wanted the points in Meditation. I know it would suit my own playing style. At this point in time, it will be a step at a time as we learn how the changes will affect us. I know that no matter what, I will always be a healer. I love it. DPS? heh . . . Good luck to you.

    By asonofsparda on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 6:29 pm

    The Star Fox reference gave me a good laugh! I decided to try out healing for the first time in a MMO a few months back and I’m loving it. I feel good knowing I’m a main reason the group is alive and survives situations which, without a healer would be near impossible. I have played DPS classes so much that moving on to a class that is actually a requirement for a group feels good. I’m almost always welcomed in to groups (when your DPS finding a group that will take you is a bit harder due to the plain fact more DPS exist over Healers normally).

    By Redaurora on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 6:48 pm

    I think it is funny you started the post writing about know it alls. I just left my guild leader because she thought she was a know it all about priest. Your right about not knowing every litte detail, but you can learn to play YOUR priest. You have to find what fits your play style the best. It may take a few respecs sad to say. My main is a priest. I knew from the begining levels she would be holy (yes it was hard to level :). I have never found a use for lightwell except to cast it for myself. The tank is to busy to remeber it. Also just like Avonmore said I spend to much time looking at health bars to see I have procs active. If you over heal that is where you get the aggro. That is where silent resolve comes in handy but you really what to not over heal. I have found that putting more points in Power word: Shield really helps out a lot. The build you have really makes sence. Just remeber to have fun with it :)
    Sorry this is a long post.

    By Infinity on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 7:22 pm

    Over heals really don’t generate threat…Its effective healing that is the real threat generator…

    By Reverend on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 8:17 pm

    I don’t have much raid healing experience, most of mine is from BGs and Arena’s.

    You asked about MODs, well I was looking around for one and found Healbot. I’m not sure if it’s updated for the new patch yet or not, but it doubled my healing during BGs. I’m sure there are other ways to monitor peoples health but Healbot helps me keep everyone buffed at all times and heal everyone that needs it, while never changing my target. I even bought myself a 5 button mouse to make it even more effective.

    Now I just hover over a name and with the click of a particular mouse button I can renew them, then another button I can shield them, then another button I can greater heal them etc…. and just move the moust over an inch to the next guy needing healing and repeat.

    The reduced mouse movement and smaller area that my eyes need to jerk around to monitor health, and much less clicks for targeting etc… have saved me tons of time in the healing process.

    By tiero on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 8:23 pm

    tis is interesting…
    mayb i should lvl my priest up to the max lvl then re-spec to holy for healin…
    i’m still a shadow,…

    By Badman on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 10:24 pm

    First off I have to say that I have not played a priest for that long, (70 without much raid experience), but to me your build looks o.k. For the 70 level cap thought I think this ( http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?tal=000000000000000000000000000023305103232015253005331351000000000000000000000000000 ) would be a bit better, and for the 80 level cap I say this ( http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVI0zZfotcfbqihVIst ).

    The main reason I took out the threat reduction for the 70 level cap build is that now tanks generate so much threat that it is really hard to pull it off of them, I can see blizzard fixing this after wrath or it just changing when we hit 80 so that’s the reason why i put it into the 80 build.

    By PopeSeanPaul on Thursday, October 16th, 2008 at 10:30 pm

    Might I suggest moving the two points from searing light to max inspiration?

    http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?tal=053020000000000000000000000003505103030015253005031051000000000000000000000000000

    It’s a minor change but it makes a big difference. I tend to take away any and all dmg increase spells.

    By hytimo on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 1:08 am

    i did make my own talent tree for my priest she is now lvl 60 and holy spec did all the way from lvl 1.

    http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?tal=053010000000000000000000000003505103030215053005331301000000000000000000000000000

    this is the spec my priest will have at 70 its builded for pure healing and not for dps (i have not been on my priest since patch 3.0.2 so i dont now all the new stuff for priests).

    By friksydingo on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 5:34 am

    yea ive tried a resto druid, and that was probably the most fun ive had playing a class that can heal. i just enjoyed it so much and the fact that i had to heal and didnt have a heal bot, so it was just click their names and heal. that was tons of fun, kept me so busy. felt like i was playing an action game lol. but i really liked the starfox reference. id play that game and the would say that even if there was a fly in the cock pit….

    By Claxo on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 7:16 am

    Every RPG and MMO I’ve played has seen me playing a healer of some sort. I like to think it has to do with having the lives of others at my fingertips. Mwahaha! Anyhow, welcome to the world of healing. I’m not an expert by any means, but I can gladly offer some advice.

    First, your talent spec. Even with the patch and new talent tree layout, any builds pre-WotLK that utilize the 51 point talent is going to short you the staple Inner Focus talent that healing priests (at least this one) can’t live without. The Guardian Spirit talent, as another poster pointed out, isn’t all that useful at the present time. What I would recommend for the time being is to drop the point in GS and put it in IF. And, as was also pointed out, Searing Light isn’t really needed. I would move those points into Holy Reach instead. Inspiration, while nice, isn’t necessary, but if its something you’d like to have, use the points from Surge of Light (a talent I’ve never found that useful). You can either keep or lose Silent Resolve. I’ve never had issues with threat, and even when I managed to pull, Fade made it all better. If you drop it, go with Imp. Inner Fire. A boost to armor never hurts, especially outside of a raid. Don’t worry too much about Serendipity until after WotLK is released.

    Playstyle. Once you get the feel for healing, you’ll be able to decide the best spell rotation for you. Personally, I’ve never relied on a set spell rotation other than opening up with Prayer of Mending and Renew on the tank. After that, its mostly situational. I’ve never had the need for macros, though I’m sure they’d make healing tons easier for the both of us. So I can’t offer you any advice on them. As for addons, I’ve had to disable all of mine since the patch, as they tend to foul up WoW now. Healbot is good. Grid and Clique (as Goggins suggested in a previous episode) are a good combination. Check a reliable addon site and look for addons that may suit your playstyle the best.

    Overall, it’ll take a little playtime to adjust from dishing out damage to serving up heals. WoW has the unique feature of accomodating any number of unique playstyles. The skills you learned to help better deal damage work just the same for healing. To beat a dead horse, ‘only you know how to best play your toon’. Unless you’re Goggins; In which case he knows how to best play your toon too. =P

    By crunchable on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 8:42 am

    You’re going to want to take meditation in the disc tree. If not you’ll run out of mana a lot more frequently.

    By Jenna on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 9:05 am

    For raiding, go far enough in discipline to get inner focus and all of meditation……trust me. I made the mistake of “playing” with the new guardian spirit and it is not that great, I’m respeccing so I can continue raiding and not be full of fail! :)

    GL with your priest!

    By Enteri on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 9:17 am

    I would def recommend Healbot and decursive. I use bongos to keep all my bubbles and healing spells in a nice box which is sitting right on top of my healbot bars, which in turn is sitting right on top of my decursive boxes.

    Using healbot and decursive makes healing super easy. I have a paladin so its easy for me to spam flash heals and not worry about overhealing.

    By Grido on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 9:32 am

    Add on Grid. You probably already have this but I thought I would add my 2c.

    I saw the raid video for SK gaming and the healer was using the Grid addon to heal the group

    It show each team member as a box and the bar represents their health. There are different colors for each class and highly customized.

    http://wow.curse.com/downloads/wow-addons/details/grid-pastamancer.aspx

    By Furbalto on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 12:15 pm

    Remember that when the expansion hits stores and people start leveling again, we get an extra 10 talent points to put into finishing off holy talents and the rest for putting into disc.

    By jack on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 1:06 pm

    I went shadow so I could lvl up to 80, then i’ll go holy again for raids. We ARE the best healers in the game, and dont let anybody tell you otherwise my fellow holies. But in case Jerry is reading this, shamans come in a close second :) .

    By holyground on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 1:21 pm

    Deside which healing niche you want to fill: single target or aoe. This will let you know which spec to choose. Personally, I love Disc spec for healing single targets. Penance and shields are amazing, and you don’t have to worry about tank rage anymore, because their DPS is their threat (for the most part). just don’t pre-shield/prayer of mending anymore and you’ll be fine.

    My suggestion for a talent spec is:

    http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?tal=053020000000000000000000000003505101032015253005031051000000000000000000000000000#none

    A couple things: You should always have inner fire up. It was good before for the armor, but now it’s required for the +spellpower. I always pick up imp IF now, too.

    Meditation is still amazing for mana regen. Not neccessary in anything below ssc as things are dying too fast, but it’s great for regen.

    I like providing the Spi buff, especially now that all prayers now go raid wide (1 cast per buff, instead of 1*groups) .

    This build is built around shields and penance. With 800 spellpower, penance can do 3 ticks of ~1800 in 2 seconds and can CRIT. It’s on a 10 second cooldown, but between that, shields, renew and a faster flash/greater, it’s amazing. It lacks CoH for AoE healing, but let the druids play with their aoe heal.

    Mods:

    Get Grid. Tell your guild healers to get Grid. If your healers get grid, it will share info and it will tell you if someone else has a heal incoming on a raid member and for how much (estimate). It’s invaluable to be able to cancel a heal because you know one is already incoming. It will also replace the need for raid UIs because if there is a debuff on the target, it has a big color coded button on the player’s square.

    Get quartz to know when your cast will land (adds lag to the bar) and begin the next heal even if the previous heal isn’t finished animating. Get DMB if you don’t already have it.

    That’s really all you need. the rest is just style. I love grid+mouseover macros. Just make sure you pay attention to the fires, and move when you have to. Healer tunnel vision is vicious.

    By Silkath on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 1:23 pm

    Meditation is mandatory and in my opinion so is Serendipity. Drop GS and DP and put the points in Meditation and Serendipity instead. Then you’re good to go.

    By holyground on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 1:25 pm

    @my previous post:

    it’s Decide. and the link was wrong, so I’m using wowhead, because I understand it better.

    http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVcbuhxtbx0VcMt0xx

    By Silkath on Friday, October 17th, 2008 at 1:27 pm

    If you’re using Grid I’d also recommend getting Clique - it’s an addon that allows one-click healing on unit frames. Alternatively you can write mouse-over macros for all of your main healing spells. I used to be a die-hard Clique fan but after running addon-less on the beta I’m probably going to stick with mouseover macros.

    By Spudnik on Saturday, October 18th, 2008 at 10:37 am

    Well the basic Macros I have set up with my priest are flash heal that heals for 1000, flash heal that heals for 2000, highest rank flash heal, Greater heal that heals for about 4000, Highest rank greater Heal.

    Those have really, REALLY heled me in reducing my overheals to a minimum, also you don’t waste mana. Another advantage is that if you have a low rank heal set up, you cn spam it for clearcasting.

    By Spudnik on Saturday, October 18th, 2008 at 10:39 am

    Oh, and of cause, I forgot, one of the greates addons for Priests is Decursive. The best thing about it is that there is a WotLK-ready version out.

    By MasterOfTheSun on Sunday, October 19th, 2008 at 4:49 am

    You sir, are an idiot.
    Disregarding meditation and inspiration clearly shows that you have no idea what forces are in the priest’s favor and which is not - yes people actually play a class to learn it, not to powerlevel it to 70.
    There’s some problem making a solid level 70 build for a level 80 talenttree obviously.
    http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxhbzhZfbxcfzqVhVsob is how you’re gunna roll, if you plan on doing healing in raids @ 70 with the new revamped talenttree. And this is http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bxhbzhZfhxcfzqVhVIst is as a healer @ 80.
    1) a stunned or what have you healer is Bad, with a capital B hence unbreakable will over twin.
    2) Twin disc, grants +heal to INSTANT heals ie: CoH. Which is heavily nerfed with the increased manacost.
    3) 30% of your out of combat mp5 is HUUGE. Wanna keep on healing thruout the whole fight, or just throw 10 greater heals and wand? good man.
    5) Desperate prayer is nice, but uses a base cd - so yes, instant but ruins your healingflow (pvp talent) - binding heal is the proper way to roll, if you happen to take dmg 6) Searing light, what are you - high? you are HEALING. 7) Flash heal, is cheap - way cheaper with glyphs, getting one for free equates to nothing, seeing you’re a priest and have an insane mp5 ic, surge of light is irrelevant.

    Going that far to get your 50p talent at 70 is a waste if you plan on doing anything.

    By Sangdrax on Sunday, October 19th, 2008 at 7:34 am

    For those who hate on the Lightwell spell and think its a waste, for PUG groups its the best. If you dont know the quality of the tank, throwing down a Lightwell before a fat pull can save much needed mana healing yourself after you Fade. I find this under-rated spell can be the difference between a long walk back and victory. Perfect example is the stairs in ZF. Throw it down before and save the mana for the long run. Hazaa :)

    By Josh on Sunday, October 19th, 2008 at 8:00 am

    ryan- “Lightwell has been buffed, but I still don’t know if it truely has a spot in raids. We’ll see about that.”

    understandable for not being sure if this is for raids but i seen them use for raids and they can be pretty helpful especially for fights when u need uber tank healz and can’t fully concentrate on the raid itself just throw it down and if they need to heal they go to the lightwell click on it and go right back in and its useful in ZA with the rush of going from one boss to the other just throw it down after a boss get your raid to click on it and move on.

    and as far as your spec goes man its not bad like i said i don’t have a priest character but something that can really help u because it helps me with my alts just go on armory and look for holy priest see how there spec and see if u like it. but as for serendipity i would suggest getting it cuz even if you over heal by 1 hp u get a good portion of the mana back and can be really helpful

    By Sinuviel on Monday, October 20th, 2008 at 2:21 am

    Right, MasteroftheSun, calling someone else an idiot is pretty low, certainly considering the advice you then give him. Your suggestions aren’t good at all to be honest.

    Twin Disc is 5/5 without question. Unbreakable will doesn’t even come close to the benefit this gives you.

    Second mistake: Healing Focus. With the new pushback rules, you will not need this talent really. On top of the pushback rule, pally aura’s are raidwide. So they put up concentration aura and you are set to go. Put those points into Surge of Light and keep your eyes open for the proc. Timing the usage of the procs is our new challenge and you should try to get used to them. This is how you learn to (ab)use the 5 second rule.

    Also, you indeed need Meditation otherwise you’re mana regen will be abysmal. I tried the Guardian Spirit build, but it just doesn’t keep up mana long enough.

    You don’t need improved Inner Fire yet because it does not give the Spellpower buff yet. That change is coming with Wrath, so don’t bother with it.

    The build I would suggest is: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVhbzhZMxxcfMqihVho

    Feel free to put Serendipity points in Improved Holy Concentration. But be careful because faster casting also means oom faster.

    If you don’t feel the need to be the AoE healer with CoH, try a deep Disc build. The mana regen is unstoppable pretty much and although your healing output is lower, it is more than enough and faster. The Disc build I am trying out right now is:
    http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVhbuhxtr0sVckt0xL

    This may not be ideal, so other Disc priests should comment on this one and suggest changes. It is my first Disc specc I ever tried, so.

    Hope this helps. Good luck healing out there!

    By cløne of Baelgun on Monday, October 20th, 2008 at 10:02 am

    Where are my Priest racial abilities? They were very important for my twink priests. I have three priests at different levels and now feel like I am loosing more than gaining with the new expansion.

    Blizzard, In my humble opinion, I like the classes to have differences and do not want all the healing classes to be equal. I don’t want the tanks to all have the same abilities. I want everyone to have a role and to feel needed because they truly are.

    By Harper on Monday, October 20th, 2008 at 11:24 am

    I am leveling a holy priest (level 42) right now and have one comment. I have found Searing Light to be useful because I’ve been running instances in a 4 person group, and it is sometimes very helpful to be able to toss out some decent dps in overpulls. But in a 5 person group, this might not be as necessary.

    By Nattao on Monday, October 27th, 2008 at 4:00 am

    I actually just stumbled upon this website due to the fact I was bored with WoW, and I’d like to offer some advise. I’m apart of a very old well-known guild, and I’d like to offer some advice for healing. As far as background goes I’ve done everything PvE oriented to the game. From Midnight to Kiljaedan, from running raids to leading them… its been a enjoyable time and I get the most fun out of helping other members. As far as spec goes, the best thing a priest can do is AoE heal. Think about it, Circle of Healing (CoH), Prayer of Healing (PoH), bouncy Prayer of Mending (PoM), and the not so useful Holy Nova. We have the best utility of healing members

    Therefore check this out:

    Lvl 70: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVhb0hZfxxcf0qihVho
    Lvl 80: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVhbzhZfxxcf0qihVIot

    This spec is the best raid healing spec that lvl 70 PvE Priest can offer. I know a lot of priest may not understand why not go down the whole tree, but Meditation is a must for any talent build until Blizzard makes it not. Plain and simple, if you want to PvE heal you have to put 13 talent points into discipline.

    Another thing i’d like to point out. Many Priest fail to understand the new importance of Surge of Light.

    i’ll explain what it does…

    Surge of Light - Rank 2/2
    Your spell criticals have a 50% chance to cause your next Smite or Flash Heal spell to be instant cast, cost no mana but be incapable of a critical hit. This effect lasts 10 sec.

    Do you get it? Basically an AoE spell has many chances to crit. Circle of healing mind you is the best, if you circle of heal a group, and one of the heals crit, you have a 50% chance to get a free not crit heal. I mean, what more can you ask for?

    Anyways, I could preach to you for hours about the Priest trees, I’ve been playing one for almost 3 years, but if anyone would like help, honestly, feel free to mail me

    =)

    By Nattao on Monday, October 27th, 2008 at 4:05 am

    EDIT: Lvl 80: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVcbzhZfxxcf0qihVIot

    No need for reduce threat with new threat generation, use it on Inner Fire buff. Forgot >.<

    By Nattao on Monday, October 27th, 2008 at 4:06 am

    EDIT: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVcbzhZfxxcf0qihVIot for lvl 80

    No need for reduce threat with new threat generation, use it on Inner Fire buff. Forgot >.<

    By Bluestaff on Monday, November 3rd, 2008 at 3:32 pm

    Must agree with Nattao’s build for the most part. Been holy since lvl 10 (can’t spec anything till you reach lvl 10 :P) and playin for almost 4 years now. These are my suggestions for PVE raid formats.

    Improved Inner Fire > Silent Resolve. Shouldn’t have threat issues. With Inner Fire adding 120 spell power at lvl 9 in wotlk, that gives an additional 54 spell power, not to mention 1098 more armor on top of the 2440.

    Meditation is definitely necessary. Priests without it are up to 30% less efficient, raiding is all about efficiency. Move 1 point from Guardian Spirit and 2 points from Divine Providence to cap Meditation.

    Healing Focus is also very important. As Nattao stated, priests are great aoe healers. However, if we need to aoe heal it’s probable the group is receiving aoe damage, and losing casting time on any of our heals is terrible. Move 2 points from Holy Specialization to cap Healing Focus. (This is where Nattao and I differ in builds. Holy Specialization, imo, has always been a holy priest’s trash talent. Sure it has an advantage, but we don’t even think about crits. Heals are constant, crits are a bonus and too rare. Priests should generally choose heals to top off the target, and crits generally end up overhealing. For this reason, many priests only put points in this talent when they need to get further down the tree.)

    Desperate Prayer. Best to drop it. Was better as a spell that didn’t require a talent point. Very situational, shield + renew works just as well. Most I ever used it in was pvp. We have binding heal now too.

    Inspiration. Use the point from Desperate Prayer and 1 more point from Holy Specialization to cap Inspiration. Even if you don’t notice a difference in required healing, tanks love the Inspiration.

    Searing Light. Remove both points, purely an offensive talent, close to never needed in raid. Put both points into Holy Reach, it will increase the range on both your CoH and your PoH.

    Finally, move the 3 remaining points from Divine Providence and cap Serendipity. Again, about the mana efficiency.

    Holy priests need constant heals, requiring efficient mana consumption. Holy priests should not rely on crits. If you think in terms of DPS, consider an affliction lock to be the holy priest counterpart. Go for more spellpower and mana efficiency.

    When WotLK releases, get Inner Focus from the Discipline tree (if you don’t decide to sacrifice a holy talent point for it already). It is situational, but can have huge benefits in longer fights. When Holy Concentration pops, you’ll have a bonus heal to cast that doesn’t count as a cast against your mp5. Add Inner Focus and that’s two bonus heals. With proper stopcasting, that time can be huge. Now that Surge of Light adds a free Flash Heal, it gives it even more of a bonus. Add in some trinkets….

    Next you’ll want to max Divine Providence and Guardian Spirit. GS can be situational also, but if you need to regen some mana I’m not afraid to pop it on the tank and take a healing break and come back restored. Also, works well when there’s an enraged boss and you only have enough time to spam flash heal.

    Finally, I prefer Test of Faith over capping Holy Specialization. ToF is situational, yes, but the cup is half full. Best time for a crit is below 50%, since above and you risk the crit being wasted on an overheal. With ToF you get a 6% bonus to your crit chance when it’s needed, whereas w/ HS you get a 3% chance. Not to mention if you miss the crit you’ll still get an added 6% bonus to your healing, so long as the target is <50% health. Will you crit more with HS? Probably if you keep your tank capped off. Will ToF give you best utilization of your crits? I think so. It’s debatable. Besides, best case scenario looks like this… Cast Guardian Spirit on MT(exit Five Second Rule in 5 sec), cast Inner Focus, GS sacrifices itself, returning MT to 50% health, cast Greater Heal (by the time it’s finished the MT should be <50%, Greater Heal Crits (w/ 15% base crit there would be a 48% chance to crit), Holy Concentration procs (45% chance to proc based on crit), next two gheals cast 30% faster for the price of one, enter FSR

    Could involve much more math, but too much time spent writing (and reading if you didn’t tldr it)

    lvl 70: http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?tal=050320003000000000000000000023205003230015253005331000000000000000000000000000000

    lvl 80: http://www.wowhead.com/?talent=bVcbzhZfbxcf0qihVIst

    By Vagner on Tuesday, February 10th, 2009 at 11:15 am

    http://www.worldofwarcraft.com/info/classes/priest/talents.html?tal=000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000325323251223112325152321351

    i like this build :D its my shadow DPS build pure awesome

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